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About the eligibility class of 2028, Gerry wrote:
  How do I get tix to the 2028 Hall of Fame induction ceremony? Go TB12. Goat.
04/27/2024 @ 13:53pm
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About Tom Brady, Gerry wrote:
  TB12. Goat. 1st ballot HOF selection. Start making the bust.
04/27/2024 @ 13:48pm
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About the eligibility class of 2028, Gerry wrote:
  How can I buy tickets for the 2028 NFL Hall of Fame induction ceremony.?
04/27/2024 @ 13:41pm
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About Patrick Mahomes, Ben wrote:
  Mahomes is a hofer. He sealed it. This year he led all the horrible chiefs wrs no one likes to another Super Bowl title. He's been an amazing qb for six year now. Give him 2 more years, and he's a lock. Maybe he'll retire in his prime though. He'll still be in the hall of fame though. Some people already have him vs Brady
04/26/2024 @ 20:20pm
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About Ben Roethlisberger, Dbailey wrote:
  All the negative comments coming from most likely 350 non athletic people who never played, but loved to criticise from there couch, yes Ben was reckless at times with the ball, but he also extended plays like no other quarterback could do
And you think it was all defense, how mouth the only quarterback in nfl history with 4, 500+ yard passing games, I repeat the only quarterback in nfl history, or how about the only quarterback in nfl history with back to back 6 touchdown games, but I'm sure you will rack that up to defense as well, fact of the mater is he changed the game as far as big tough quarterbacks are concerned, he had his nose broken in a game against Baltimore, and still beat them, he was great for Pittsburgh, great for the NFL, And great for football, so like it or not yes he's a first ballot hall of fame
04/25/2024 @ 22:53pm
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About the eligibility class of 2025, Rod wrote:
  Eli did not beat Brady, Giants defence did.
04/24/2024 @ 16:29pm
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About Tim Harris, samer s tarazi wrote:
  for his 19 1/2 sacks for a 130 yard loss his 68 tackles and multiple forced fumbles and fumbl recoveries in 1989 should be nominated
04/22/2024 @ 21:02pm
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About Roman Gabriel, Tyler Helt wrote:
  Rip Roman Gabriel.Rams Legend.
04/22/2024 @ 12:28pm
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About Randy Moss, Rob H wrote:
  If he'd stayed consistent (see Raiders) and focused he'd have broken every record by a mile. A true unicorn
04/20/2024 @ 17:56pm
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About Reggie Wayne, Rob H wrote:
  Of everyone on this snub list, he's the most deserving. It's past time.
04/20/2024 @ 17:01pm
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About Reggie Wayne, Rob H wrote:
  Of everyone on this snub list, he's the most deserving. It's past time.
04/20/2024 @ 17:01pm
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About Reggie Wayne, Rob H wrote:
  Of everyone on this snub list, he's the most deserving. It's past time.
04/20/2024 @ 16:47pm
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About Darren Sharper, Rob H wrote:
  A convicted rapist serving life in prison. Although his football accomplishments have nothing to do with his personal life, the crimes outweigh his contributions. Remove him from consideration.
04/20/2024 @ 16:13pm
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About Darren Sharper, Rob H wrote:
  A convicted rapist serving life in prison. Although his football accomplishments have nothing to do with his personal life, the crimes outweigh his contributions. Remove him from consideration.
04/20/2024 @ 16:12pm
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About Clay Matthews III, Jerry wrote:
  Credentials are incorrect. Clay Matthew III did win a Super Bowl with the Packers
04/19/2024 @ 04:35am
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About the eligibility class of 2025, Frank M wrote:
  If Adam V doesn't get in they should just disregard the HOF
04/16/2024 @ 13:02pm
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About the eligibility class of 2029, Gabe Itch wrote:
  Relax fellas, TB12's first year of eligibility is for the 2028 class. He'll already be in for a year when these guys are being considered.
04/13/2024 @ 06:21am
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About LeRoy Irvin, Michael VaVerka wrote:
  Crazy to think that Leroy Irving is not in the Hall of fame . His stats are crazy good
04/8/2024 @ 21:11pm
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About Don Norton, Loretta wrote:
  Norton wasn't the smartest cookie educational wise. His girlfriend had to take tests for him in high-school, it is believed.
04/5/2024 @ 18:20pm
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About the eligibility class of 2027, Eshan wrote:
  The amount of people saying Ben shouldn't get in because he was 5th best in his era…Manning, Rodgers, and Brees have only ever made it to one SB max minus Manning and has more SB wins than Rodgers or Brees. Get off your high horses and @njazrael71 start taking your pills because you're whack
04/1/2024 @ 00:23am
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About the eligibility class of 2029, Justin Castello wrote:
  Tom brady hof
03/5/2024 @ 09:00am
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About William Roberts, Anna Cortez wrote:
  I would like to see William Roberts nominated and then become an NFL Hall of Fame member. I followed William Roberts College and Professional Career and found him to be a standup and standout committed athlete He dedicated 13 years to the NFL after being chosen as a first-round draft pick, with the majority of his career with one team, the New York Giants. His stats prove that he has fulfilled the necessary requirements to be a member of this elite club. he has served on a Super Bowl Team as well as being a member of the NFL Pro Bowl team. William Roberts hard work and commitment deserve to be honored with him ultimately being inducted as a member of the NFL Hall of Fame.
03/4/2024 @ 23:09pm
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About the eligibility class of 2025, Michael Howard wrote:
  Gimme the Boom of the LOB. Kam Chancellor. He did everything was so dominant and shut every player down on the feild. Pass rush, stuffed the run, shut down RBs TEs and WRs or Duel threat QBs. 0 career TDs aloud and probably the Hardest hitter in NFL history. Absolutely a monster and Legend. #s don't prove how great Kam was.
03/3/2024 @ 03:13am
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About the eligibility class of 2025, Michael Howard wrote:
  The Disrespect to Shawn Alexander... One of the greatest RBs of all time when he was in his prime. MVP. Should of been SB champ. More TDs than Barry Sanders an1 shy of Walter Peton or tied w him. Forget. He was sooo good. Plus so great @ Alabama. No fluke. One of the best.
03/3/2024 @ 03:08am
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About the eligibility class of 2026, Dylan wrote:
  Atkins and pouncey be favored over Fitz just shows how much of a joke this article/scoring system is
02/24/2024 @ 04:12am
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About the eligibility class of 2025, Gabriel P wrote:
  In response to George Vreeland Hill, uh yes it does. Every QB to win multiple Super Bowls is in the Hall of Fame. Plus he led a team that wasn't expected to make the playoffs in 2007 and beat the Pats in their undefeated season. Probably the biggest upset in Super Bowl history. Then he did it again four years later.
02/22/2024 @ 21:53pm
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About Nick Lowery, Ray wrote:
  Some excellent analysis of Lowery here. Was Lowery actually the best kicker of all time?

A key snippet:

"So, why should Lowery be mentioned with four kickers often cited as the best ever? Because when you compare accuracy in their respective eras, Nick Lowery was better.

In his book, 'A Statistical History of Pro Football: Players, Teams and Concepts', author Rupert Patrick published groundbreaking work that included a lengthy section on kickers. Patrick, who passed away prior to the publication of his opus, was a member of the Pro Football Researcher's Association and its 2019 winner of the Ralph Hay Award for lifetime achievement in pro football research. He was also the individual who developed metrics called PAL and PAL2 (Points Above Average, with the latter more detailed) that accurately compare kickers in their eras.

Roughly speaking, the two metrics compare points a kicker achieved over what the average kicker would've scored on the same number of kicks. The names previously mentioned - Stenerud, Andersen, Vinatieri and Tucker -- all score high (as does Hall-of-Famer Lou Groza and others). But Lowery scores higher.

In fact, he's first in both and more accurate than the average kicker by a higher margin than all other kickers.

'It was a bit of a surprise,' wrote Patrick, 'that the top career PAL score belonged to Nick Lowery; when I was compiling the data for this project I figured the career leader would either be Gary Anderson or Morten Andersen, based on sheer longevity. Neither of them would have lasted very long if they weren't outstanding kickers. The reason Lowery finished first by a big margin is that he never really had a bad season until the final season of his career.'

As for PAL2, the more detailed version, Patrick added, 'Nick Lowery tops this list, and I don't see anybody taking the top spot from him anytime soon.'

His prediction was right, though Tucker has a chance.

In 2017 Chase Stuart of Football Perspective.com, an excellent analytics site, developed his own metric that measures accuracy - a kicker's field-goal percentage above the expected percentage, broken down by 10-yard increments. He reached the same conclusion as Patrick.

'It's not much of a question as to who is the best kicker ever,' Stuart wrote. 'Until presented with evidence to the contrary, that honor belongs to Nick Lowery.'

Why? Because, compared to his peers, Lowery's kickers were accurate at a rate higher than expected. In Stuart's metric, Lowery is the best ever.

'Lowery's expected field-goal rate was 70.5 percent,' said Stuart, 'while his actual was 80.0 percent. So he was successful an extra 9.5 percent of the time he lined up to kick. That's remarkable. In short, Lowery was the most valuable field goal kicker in NFL history.'"

Lowery has passed to the abyssal reaches of the Seniors committee, but hopefully his case is heard sooner rather than later.

https://talkoffametwo.com/state-your-case/chiefs-nick-lowery-hall-of-fame
02/18/2024 @ 19:06pm
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About the eligibility class of 2025, George Vreeland Hill wrote:
  Beating Tom Brady twice does not put Eli Manning in the NFL Hall of Fame.
I'm a Giants fan, and Phil Simms was a better QB for the Giants and he won with less offensive talent.
Besides, Manning had too many bad years and few remember or know that during the 2007 season, there was talk that Eli would be cut after the season, but the Giants came on and made the playoffs and went on to win the Super Bowl, which happened to end the New England Patriots undefeated season.
The legend of Eli began, but he is no legend.
George Vreeland Hill
02/17/2024 @ 15:26pm
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About Ken Norton, Patrick Cassaday wrote:
  KNJ is the only player to win and receive a Super Bowl ring, 3 consecutive years in a row.
Voted a 1st & 2nd team ALL PRO, he played in 3 pro bowls throughout his 13yr career.
He certainly should've made the Final Cut, before his 18th year of pro-bowl eligibility. Maybe he's not well liked amongst his peers? Hope he gets nominated again next year.
02/15/2024 @ 20:18pm
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About Richmond Webb, Ray wrote:
  "Five years from now, one of the most popular complaints about the Pro Football Hall of Fame will be this: How the heck is Richmond Webb in the senior pool? And the answer will be easy: He was never discussed as a modern-era finalist.

Based on what's happened thus far, that's not just likely. It's inevitable.

Yet, for the better part of a decade, Webb defined the left-tackle position. As a rookie in 1990, he started all 16 games and played every snap for the 12-4 Dolphins, protecting Dan Marino's blindside so well that he became the first rookie tackle to make the Pro Bowl since the merger and the first rookie left tackle to do so since 1955.

Bruce Smith won the AP Defensive Player of the Year that year, with his 19 sacks just one shy of the league lead. But in three Dolphins-Bills games (two regular season, one in the playoffs), Webb and the Dolphins held Smith sack-less. Webb had such a dominant season that he was UPI's AFC Rookie of the Year, finished 4th in the AP's Offensive Rookie-of-the-Year voting and, according to the Miami Herald, was flagged for holding just once.

He was a Pro Bowler again in 1991, a Pro Bowl starter in 1992 and a Pro Bowler, period, his first seven seasons. In the middle, he was an All Pro in 1992-95 and a first-team choice twice, including 1994 when Sports Illustrated called left tackles the NFL's 'most important players on the field.'

When the 1990s came to a close, the four tackles on the league's all-decade team were Willie Roaf, Gary Zimmerman, Tony Boselli … and Webb. Roaf, Zimmerman and Boselli all are in the Pro Football Hall of Fame. But Richmond Webb? Somehow, in his first 16 seasons of modern-era eligibility, Hall-of-Fame voters named him a semifinalist a grand total of — ready for it? — zero times."


Interesting article overall.

https://talkoffametwo.com/guest-columns/how-to-reduce-hall-senior-pool
02/15/2024 @ 18:28pm
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About Calvin Hill, Cosme Ripol wrote:
  Calvin Hill won a Super Bowl during the 1971 season with the Dallas Cowboys. The Cowboys and Calvin Hill beat the Miami Dolphin 24-3 in super Bowl VI. It should have been 31-3 but for Calvin hill fumbling inside the Miami two yard line in the second half. Therefore, Future Football Legends has made an error when it does not credit Hill for earning a Super Bowl ring. The mistake is understandable, however, as Duane Thomas was the starting half back for the Cowboys over Calvin Hill in Super Bowl VI. Calvin Hill was the rookie of the year in 1969, beating the Washington Redskins Larry Brown for the honor. I always considered Calvin Hill a superior runner to Larry Brown, though Duane Thomas during the 1970 and 1971 seasons sent Hill to the bench and Larry Brown did have a magnificent season in 1972. Regrettably, Hill left the Cowboys in 1974 for the money offered by the World Football League after two straight thousand yard seasons in 1972 and 1973. Hill was injury prone but he was a fine blocker and pass receiver out of the backfield. When healthy, Calvin Hill was a very good running back and a great one in 1969. More importantly, Calvin Hill was a better human being. Should Calvin Hill be in the Hall of Fame? No. Nevertheless, Future Football Legends should give Hill credit for his contributions to the Cowboy running attack in 1971 and his
playing in and helping the Cowboys win Super Bowl VI.
02/14/2024 @ 22:33pm
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About Art Powell, Ray wrote:
  Just bizarre for the Senior Committee to pass on Powell. They've thrown up candidates before with dubious credentials, but look at the leaderboards. Top 6 in Receiving Yards and Receiving Yards/Game from 1960-66, or every full year of his career, including leading the league in '62 and '63, and only skipping 1961 when it came to touchdowns, leading the league in '60 and '63. And sure, he had Tom Flores as his QB from '63-'66 when he went to the Raiders, but he still led the league in Receiving Yards and Receiving Yards/Game in 1962 with Johnny Green (who?) as his primary QB, or in touchdowns with Al Dorow in 1960, who just happened to have arguably the two best seasons of his career with Powell to throw to from 1960-61. He looks absolutely legitimate to me.
02/14/2024 @ 16:35pm
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About Devin Hester, Ray wrote:
  I just wish they gave the same amount of attention they gave to Hester to other specialists. Where's the love for Shane Lechler, arguably the greatest punter in history, or for Sean Landeta, Reggie Roby, and Don Chandler, to name a few others? How about for Gary Anderson, Nick Lowery, Jim Bakken, and Garo Yepremian, to name a few for kickers? How about for Rick Upchurch and Mike Nelms, to name a couple other kick returners? But maybe this is a sign that they're finally starting to give these guys their due attention, even as the likes of Anderson, Lechler, and Landeta have still never so much as made the cut to semifinalist.

Anyways, congrats to Hester, much deserved.
02/14/2024 @ 16:14pm
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About Devin Hester, Tyler Helt wrote:
  This guy deserves to be in the Class of 2024.Hester dominated his position to the point that the league had to even the playing field (pun intended), by changing the rules on kickoffs... He's the greatest returner we've ever seen. If he's not worthy, and there are plenty who are enshrined that aren't, then just do away with all the hoopla of it's significance.
02/13/2024 @ 12:19pm
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About Steve Wisniewski, Ray wrote:
  Little article on the man.


State Your Case: Why Wisniewski's Production Deserves Hall of Fame Consideration

https://talkoffametwo.com/state-your-case/state-your-case-why-wisniewski-s-production-deserves-hall-of-fame-consideration
02/13/2024 @ 00:43am
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About Brandon Marshall, a.johnson wrote:
  this needs to be corrected, this brandon marshall NEVER won a superbowl. in fact this brandon marshall never played a playoff game. the brandon marshall that won a superbowl played middle linebacker
02/12/2024 @ 07:06am
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About Eli Manning, J.W Ireland wrote:
  2 Super Bowl Wins - 2 Super Bowl MVP Awards - Beat GOAT Tom Brady led Patriots 2 times in Super Bowls (including the undefeated Patriots season). Walter Payton Man of the Year Award Winner- 16 years with same team as Starting QB and set a record for consecutive games played by QB. True gentleman and loyal team player. Never complained even when leading some really bad NYG teams.
02/11/2024 @ 02:21am
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About the eligibility class of 2025, Jerome Horrace wrote:
  Marshawn has done everything needed to make the Hall. He didn't play by NFL rules so he may get the snub.
02/10/2024 @ 22:00pm
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About the eligibility class of 2027, Jon wrote:
  Ben is easily number 1 on this list, only brady was more clutch. Only manning and Brady were better for longer.
02/9/2024 @ 14:21pm
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About Jahri Evans, Ray wrote:
  Does Drew Brees put up the same numbers without him? Probably not.

Does Brees get in before him? Probably.
02/9/2024 @ 01:27am
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